This two piece buckram hat has a brim number 387 which consists of 3 inch front and sides and 2 inch back. The crown number 199 has 3 inch front, sides and back. This buckram hat frame is for those in the hat making busines or anyone interested in learning the art of hat making. This frame is considerd unfinished because it is not covered with fabric or other material. It is part of the Buckram Hat Frames Collection offered through Kay's Art of Millinery.